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		<title>IT Career Coach</title>
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		<dc:creator>IT Career Coach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#java: you can become a java developer considering with a B.E. (Computers) and IEE credentials. 

I am not sure of the reason why you are working jobs you don&#039;t  like! That shouldn&#039;t happen considering that you are a skilled IT professional.

The primary reason for situations such as yours is that you are working with the wrong recruiter(s) or you are not proactive enough at marketing yourself.

You may also consider learning a new programming language such as Microsoft .NET and C# which is similar to Java in Syntax.

Either way with your ability and ambition to put in 10 to 12 hours of study per day,  I believe that you will be able to get a good job ... soon.

Either way, let me know if you are ready and we can work on creating a customized career action plan for you, oK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#java: you can become a java developer considering with a B.E. (Computers) and IEE credentials. </p>
<p>I am not sure of the reason why you are working jobs you don&#8217;t  like! That shouldn&#8217;t happen considering that you are a skilled IT professional.</p>
<p>The primary reason for situations such as yours is that you are working with the wrong recruiter(s) or you are not proactive enough at marketing yourself.</p>
<p>You may also consider learning a new programming language such as Microsoft .NET and C# which is similar to Java in Syntax.</p>
<p>Either way with your ability and ambition to put in 10 to 12 hours of study per day,  I believe that you will be able to get a good <a target="_blank" title="job" href="http://www.myjobsearchcoaching.com/more-information/">job</a> &#8230; soon.</p>
<p>Either way, let me know if you are ready and we can work on creating a customized career action plan for you, oK?</p>
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		<title>Sandeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I am  B.E.(Computers) from university of Mumbai, India. 

I have my credentials evaluated at IEE, North Carolina. 

I have wasted a lot of my time doing jobs not related to my field. 

I have a strong desire to get into my own field which is software development. I can put any effort required to get in. 

I have done some Java programming about 5 yrs back. Kindly advise. Your advice would be invaluable and immensely appreciated. 

Please tll me how and where to begin. I can join courses. 

I can study on my own. 

I can put in 10-12 hrs a day in my making. There will be no dearth of effort.

Thanks.

Sandeep</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I am  B.E.(Computers) from university of Mumbai, India. </p>
<p>I have my credentials evaluated at IEE, North Carolina. </p>
<p>I have wasted a lot of my time doing jobs not related to my field. </p>
<p>I have a strong desire to get into my own field which is software development. I can put any effort required to get in. </p>
<p>I have done some Java programming about 5 yrs back. Kindly advise. Your advice would be invaluable and immensely appreciated. </p>
<p>Please tll me how and where to begin. I can join courses. </p>
<p>I can study on my own. </p>
<p>I can put in 10-12 hrs a day in my making. There will be no dearth of effort.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Sandeep</p>
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		<title>IT Career Coach</title>
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		<dc:creator>IT Career Coach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 04:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Highly Regarded &quot;Top MBA&quot; degrees are great but they do not turn candidates into business analysts.

The business analyst profession or career is an information technology discipline that is typically not taught in colleges.

Even if they were taught in colleges ... employers still require that business analysts have a strong traditional background gained by hands-on experience in the industry rather than by education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Highly Regarded &#8220;Top MBA&#8221; degrees are great but they do not turn candidates into business analysts.</p>
<p>The business analyst profession or career is an information technology discipline that is typically not taught in colleges.</p>
<p>Even if they were taught in colleges &#8230; employers still require that business analysts have a strong traditional background gained by hands-on experience in the industry rather than by education.</p>
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		<title>IT Career Coach</title>
		<link>http://www.it-career-coach.net/2009/08/19/do-business-analysts-need-computer-programmer-skills/comment-page-1/#comment-5197</link>
		<dc:creator>IT Career Coach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 04:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Business Analysts need to pay attention to the demands by employers for a wider range of skill sets.

Just like you are mentioning, there are business analyst jobs that require data analysis or data warehousing or database development or software development backgrounds and experience and a business analysts who just want pure business analysis jobs ... may end up limiting themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Business Analysts need to pay attention to the demands by employers for a wider range of skill sets.</p>
<p>Just like you are mentioning, there are business analyst jobs that require <a target="_blank" title="data analysis" href="http://www.dataanalystbootcamp.com/more-information/">data analysis</a> or data warehousing or database development or software development backgrounds and experience and a business analysts who just want pure business analysis jobs &#8230; may end up limiting themselves.</p>
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		<title>allensbar</title>
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		<dc:creator>allensbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting discussion and lots of good points.

It is becoming increasingly evident the role &#039;Business Analyst&#039; is heading down two tracks - one being a junior level and pay grade the other being senior level and higher pay. 

The difference is the technology skillset, if you bring to the table data analyst, data warehouse, programming or niche software experience you will be attractive as a senior level business analyst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion and lots of good points.</p>
<p>It is becoming increasingly evident the role &#8216;Business Analyst&#8217; is heading down two tracks &#8211; one being a junior level and pay grade the other being senior level and higher pay. </p>
<p>The difference is the technology skillset, if you bring to the table <a target="_blank" title="data analyst" href="http://www.dataanalystbootcamp.com/more-information/">data analyst</a>, data warehouse, programming or niche software experience you will be attractive as a senior level business analyst.</p>
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		<title>Nishant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nishant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott and Debbie, I could agree with you as a rare breed in those projects which do not require the BA to have come from a business user background. 

I have worked on projects with a large shipping organisation, where CTO (acting as Enterprise Architect) and Principal Consultant (as leed consultant) were challenged during the requirements&#039; capture sessions. 

Even, the client&#039;s IT department didn&#039;t have a clue as to how the business is done. So it was a complete fallout.

The other reality I would like to mention is the highly regarded &quot;Top MBA&quot; degrees. 

The business schools offering such degrees help in getting jobs more by means of industry network rather than by teaching what the person would have learnt only by staying in job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott and Debbie, I could agree with you as a rare breed in those projects which do not require the BA to have come from a business user background. </p>
<p>I have worked on projects with a large shipping organisation, where CTO (acting as Enterprise Architect) and Principal Consultant (as leed consultant) were challenged during the requirements&#8217; capture sessions. </p>
<p>Even, the client&#8217;s IT department didn&#8217;t have a clue as to how the business is done. So it was a complete fallout.</p>
<p>The other reality I would like to mention is the highly regarded &#8220;Top MBA&#8221; degrees. </p>
<p>The business schools offering such degrees help in getting jobs more by means of industry network rather than by teaching what the person would have learnt only by staying in <a target="_blank" title="job" href="http://www.myjobsearchcoaching.com/more-information/">job</a>.</p>
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		<title>Nishant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nishant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Non-IT BAs committing on the deadline is a dangerous effort. This should be decided together by the Principal Consultant and the Project Manager. 

BAs should focus on requirements analysis, preparation of RFI/ RFPs, development of business scenarios, business process mapping and reengineering.

Guys, do pardon me but I am critical of the job descriptions in discussion. 

I am an IT aware person rather than an IT educated one and provide BA services to a very niche domain i.e., shipping. 

I would like to agree that an a Principal Consultant, you would need to know technology as well as business. 

However, I would like to ask those IT organisations who want a person coming from line management to grow projects, it would be unjust to expect the IT skills from the person as he/she hasn&#039;t mentioned them in the cv anyway before he got hired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Non-IT BAs committing on the deadline is a dangerous effort. This should be decided together by the Principal Consultant and the Project Manager. </p>
<p>BAs should focus on requirements analysis, preparation of RFI/ RFPs, development of business scenarios, business process mapping and reengineering.</p>
<p>Guys, do pardon me but I am critical of the <a target="_blank" title="job" href="http://www.myjobsearchcoaching.com/more-information/">job</a> descriptions in discussion. </p>
<p>I am an IT aware person rather than an IT educated one and provide BA services to a very niche domain i.e., shipping. </p>
<p>I would like to agree that an a Principal Consultant, you would need to know technology as well as business. </p>
<p>However, I would like to ask those IT organisations who want a person coming from line management to grow projects, it would be unjust to expect the IT skills from the person as he/she hasn&#8217;t mentioned them in the cv anyway before he got hired.</p>
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		<title>Winston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
I would like to see the Business Analyst more focused on understanding the business and Business Process Re-engineering. 

I would prefer BA&#039;s ensure that the capabilities are delivered, and be less focused on the technical solution, that&#039;s what the technical people do best. 

The techo&#039;s are unlikely to be able to influence business processes which is where the BA&#039;s come into their own. 

Having an understanding of how the proposed solution fits into the business model and how the processes can use the new capabilities to improve efficiencies and drive down costs I feel would be of more value than having BA&#039;s performing work of developers. 
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I would like to see the Business Analyst more focused on understanding the business and Business Process Re-engineering. </p>
<p>I would prefer BA&#8217;s ensure that the capabilities are delivered, and be less focused on the technical solution, that&#8217;s what the technical people do best. </p>
<p>The techo&#8217;s are unlikely to be able to influence business processes which is where the BA&#8217;s come into their own. </p>
<p>Having an understanding of how the proposed solution fits into the business model and how the processes can use the new capabilities to improve efficiencies and drive down costs I feel would be of more value than having BA&#8217;s performing work of developers.
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		<title>Sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
As a Business Analyst, I think that this article presents an interesting merging of two schools of thought. 

Many work environments dictate that the programmers must do the coding and the analysts work with the programmers to define the requirements and the business logic. 

I feel that the business analyst role should morph into a business programmer/analyst role. 

By training analysts to do some of or most of the programming on a project, they are better armed to guide and assist their customers in how to solve their business process issues. 

The key here is that organizations have to be willing to change - provide BAs with the programming training and tools to merge these two job functions. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
As a Business Analyst, I think that this article presents an interesting merging of two schools of thought. </p>
<p>Many work environments dictate that the programmers must do the coding and the analysts work with the programmers to define the requirements and the business logic. </p>
<p>I feel that the business analyst role should morph into a business programmer/analyst role. </p>
<p>By training analysts to do some of or most of the programming on a project, they are better armed to guide and assist their customers in how to solve their business process issues. </p>
<p>The key here is that organizations have to be willing to change &#8211; provide BAs with the programming training and tools to merge these two <a target="_blank" title="job" href="http://www.myjobsearchcoaching.com/more-information/">job</a> functions.
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		<title>Eugen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Interesting topic indeed

We think to separate in 2 ways : business analyst role and software analyst role

If these 2 roles are going to come together , definitely this BA must have software skills; otherwise it is an asset but not a must; why ? because a BA (not an SA) must be very closely to the customer needs and prepare RFP very well

Indeed , if a BA has software development skills is better , because he/she can understand what a software developer needs

In the end, it is important the success of the project and team working

regards

Eugen 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
Interesting topic indeed</p>
<p>We think to separate in 2 ways : business analyst role and software analyst role</p>
<p>If these 2 roles are going to come together , definitely this BA must have software skills; otherwise it is an asset but not a must; why ? because a BA (not an SA) must be very closely to the customer needs and prepare RFP very well</p>
<p>Indeed , if a BA has software development skills is better , because he/she can understand what a software developer needs</p>
<p>In the end, it is important the success of the project and team working</p>
<p>regards</p>
<p>Eugen
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		<title>Sandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
To address Winston&#039;s post, I think the key lies in the strengths of the individual and potentially whether they started out as a BA or a Developer!

I trained as a BA, then PM, but have always made it my business to know as much as I can about the technical side to the solution(s) involved in the project.

My current role is in a very small operation in comparison to the companies I have worked for in the past, and this means I am now a quasi programmer (report writing in SSRS) as well as BA as well as Project Manager. This suits me fine, and I think it is rounding out my skills and presenting the business with the best value for their money!

To Scott&#039;s comments, what kind of BA would make promises to clients on deadlines without first liaising with the PM, programmers, suppliers or other external parties to ensure those deadlines could be achieved? 

My advice to them would be that they will gain the respect not only of the business, but the entire project team if they take into consideration all factors prior to making any commitments - even if it means a delay to the business&#039; expectations. 
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To address Winston&#8217;s post, I think the key lies in the strengths of the individual and potentially whether they started out as a BA or a Developer!</p>
<p>I trained as a BA, then PM, but have always made it my business to know as much as I can about the technical side to the solution(s) involved in the project.</p>
<p>My current role is in a very small operation in comparison to the companies I have worked for in the past, and this means I am now a quasi programmer (report writing in SSRS) as well as BA as well as Project Manager. This suits me fine, and I think it is rounding out my skills and presenting the business with the best value for their money!</p>
<p>To Scott&#8217;s comments, what kind of BA would make promises to clients on deadlines without first liaising with the PM, programmers, suppliers or other external parties to ensure those deadlines could be achieved? </p>
<p>My advice to them would be that they will gain the respect not only of the business, but the entire project team if they take into consideration all factors prior to making any commitments &#8211; even if it means a delay to the business&#8217; expectations.
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		<title>Winston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
I find this to be an interesting topic. Having worked with many BA&#039;s that do not have a programming background, or very limited, I would like to buck the trend to this discussion somewhat.

The more &quot;technical&quot; the BA is the more they think in solution mode rather than analytical mode. 

I have seen a few BA&#039;s look at the technical solution, where they come from a strong technical background, and loose site of analysing the business and determining the appropriate capabilities the business needs.

I have seen a trend over the last 5 or so years that in small operations the &quot;developers&quot; do a lot of the BA work rather than vice versa. As the Developers seem to have to develop a grasp for liaising with Business Users to clarify requirements, they are making more inroads into the BA world.

@Scott, I agree that the BA&#039;s create significant problems when they try to dictate solutions and timeframes. As they say, a little bit of knowledge is dangerous.

@Brian, I agree that most BA&#039;s these days have a good conceptual understanding of technology like databases. 

I also agree that in small operations it is more likely to result in a better outcome using a competent developer than getting a BA to program.

We need to have BA&#039;s do what they do best, analyse the business. Get the ideas and requirements out of people&#039;s heads and down on paper so they can be understood, scrutinized, and evaluated. 

It should then be up to the technical people to then produce a solution and an appropriate timeframe to deliver.

I&#039;d like to hear from any BA&#039;s on this topic. 
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I find this to be an interesting topic. Having worked with many BA&#8217;s that do not have a programming background, or very limited, I would like to buck the trend to this discussion somewhat.</p>
<p>The more &#8220;technical&#8221; the BA is the more they think in solution mode rather than analytical mode. </p>
<p>I have seen a few BA&#8217;s look at the technical solution, where they come from a strong technical background, and loose site of analysing the business and determining the appropriate capabilities the business needs.</p>
<p>I have seen a trend over the last 5 or so years that in small operations the &#8220;developers&#8221; do a lot of the BA work rather than vice versa. As the Developers seem to have to develop a grasp for liaising with Business Users to clarify requirements, they are making more inroads into the BA world.</p>
<p>@Scott, I agree that the BA&#8217;s create significant problems when they try to dictate solutions and timeframes. As they say, a little bit of knowledge is dangerous.</p>
<p>@Brian, I agree that most BA&#8217;s these days have a good conceptual understanding of technology like databases. </p>
<p>I also agree that in small operations it is more likely to result in a better outcome using a competent developer than getting a BA to program.</p>
<p>We need to have BA&#8217;s do what they do best, analyse the business. Get the ideas and requirements out of people&#8217;s heads and down on paper so they can be understood, scrutinized, and evaluated. </p>
<p>It should then be up to the technical people to then produce a solution and an appropriate timeframe to deliver.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to hear from any BA&#8217;s on this topic.
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		<title>scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Absolutely, to many times I have seen BA&#039;s make decisions and then force a rediculous turn around time on a programmer (or agree to something that just cannot be delivered as requested). 

Only BA&#039;s that either were a programmer or have at least some programmer skills, can adequately know what it takes to get it done. BA&#039;s also need to know the business, the tools necessary, etc. 

I have been through where contract BA&#039;s were brought in and the project was a failure because they did not know the business dynamics or the systems that were going to be involved. 

they just met with the client, agreed what was needed, gave a deadline date and then handed it to a programmer and said here is the task - meet it by this date. 

Resulted in many meetings on why something could not be delivered as requested or in the time that was agreed to. everyone looked bad in the end, but the BA took it out on the programmer for not being able to meet the need as agreed.

Luckily now I work at a place where I am dealing with the client directly and have good support through our developers. 
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Absolutely, to many times I have seen BA&#8217;s make decisions and then force a rediculous turn around time on a programmer (or agree to something that just cannot be delivered as requested). </p>
<p>Only BA&#8217;s that either were a programmer or have at least some programmer skills, can adequately know what it takes to get it done. BA&#8217;s also need to know the business, the tools necessary, etc. </p>
<p>I have been through where contract BA&#8217;s were brought in and the project was a failure because they did not know the business dynamics or the systems that were going to be involved. </p>
<p>they just met with the client, agreed what was needed, gave a deadline date and then handed it to a programmer and said here is the task &#8211; meet it by this date. </p>
<p>Resulted in many meetings on why something could not be delivered as requested or in the time that was agreed to. everyone looked bad in the end, but the BA took it out on the programmer for not being able to meet the need as agreed.</p>
<p>Luckily now I work at a place where I am dealing with the client directly and have good support through our developers.
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		<title>Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
I suppose it depends in large part on the complexity of the project and the size of the team.

In simpler projects, a competent developer will have to interact directly with the business users. 

The developer is typically required to bridge the terminology gap, although a good user will pick up a technical idea or two.

As the project grows in scope, more titles will appear. If the team has a Project Manager, Business Analyst, Architect, and Lead Developer it would not be necessary for the BA to have detailed programming experience. In fact, it might be counterproductive.

Its the mid-level projects, with people wearing multiple hats, where blending of skills makes more sense. Even so, I would probably err on the side of using a more competent developer than expecting a BA to have programmed.

Good Business Analysts will have a reasonable understanding of databases, interfaces, and especially processes -- the sort of items found in UML diagrams. 

Some of the best, that I have worked with, seem to come from an accounting background probably because they have to work with data, analysis, and processes.
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I suppose it depends in large part on the complexity of the project and the size of the team.</p>
<p>In simpler projects, a competent developer will have to interact directly with the business users. </p>
<p>The developer is typically required to bridge the terminology gap, although a good user will pick up a technical idea or two.</p>
<p>As the project grows in scope, more titles will appear. If the team has a Project Manager, Business Analyst, Architect, and Lead Developer it would not be necessary for the BA to have detailed programming experience. In fact, it might be counterproductive.</p>
<p>Its the mid-level projects, with people wearing multiple hats, where blending of skills makes more sense. Even so, I would probably err on the side of using a more competent developer than expecting a BA to have programmed.</p>
<p>Good Business Analysts will have a reasonable understanding of databases, interfaces, and especially processes &#8212; the sort of items found in UML diagrams. </p>
<p>Some of the best, that I have worked with, seem to come from an accounting background probably because they have to work with data, analysis, and processes.
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		<title>Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
I would agree as well. Business intelligence tools have improved significantly in the last several years enabling sophisticated decision support. 

Business analysts need to leverage these tools to adapt to changes in decision making rapidly. 

This means cutting out the inefficient business analyst to developer cycle where you have a non-technical analyst with the business knowledge and a developer without the necessary business knowledge working out a necessary change.

At the same time the BI tools and programming languages like .NET have made programming tasks much easier than they have in the past. 
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I would agree as well. Business intelligence tools have improved significantly in the last several years enabling sophisticated decision support. </p>
<p>Business analysts need to leverage these tools to adapt to changes in decision making rapidly. </p>
<p>This means cutting out the inefficient business analyst to developer cycle where you have a non-technical analyst with the business knowledge and a developer without the necessary business knowledge working out a necessary change.</p>
<p>At the same time the BI tools and programming languages like .NET have made programming tasks much easier than they have in the past.
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		<title>Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Most definitely. 

How can a strong BA do their job and offer effective processes and/or clean working solutions to a client, without having some level of technical expertise? 

Information technology has been bridging the gaps between the end user and the true detail level programmer for the past several years. 

There is now, more than ever, a blending of the skills that must be achieved for one to survive within the current IT landscape.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Most definitely. </p>
<p>How can a strong BA do their <a target="_blank" title="job" href="http://www.myjobsearchcoaching.com/more-information/">job</a> and offer effective processes and/or clean working solutions to a client, without having some level of technical expertise? </p>
<p>Information technology has been bridging the gaps between the end user and the true detail level programmer for the past several years. </p>
<p>There is now, more than ever, a blending of the skills that must be achieved for one to survive within the current IT landscape.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Debbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Good article.
I now understand what I have been missing with BA job descriptions. 

I thought that I BA went along with the PMO groups.

And Scott I am in your court as a rare breed as well. 

I have over 15 years of IT experience, but chose to get my degree in Business and Marketing since I think that is where the world will eventually move to.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Good article.<br />
I now understand what I have been missing with BA <a target="_blank" title="job" href="http://www.myjobsearchcoaching.com/more-information/">job</a> descriptions. </p>
<p>I thought that I BA went along with the PMO <a title="groups" href="http://www.it-career-coach.net/groups/">groups</a>.</p>
<p>And Scott I am in your court as a rare breed as well. </p>
<p>I have over 15 years of IT experience, but chose to get my degree in Business and Marketing since I think that is where the world will eventually move to.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Lowell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Good article overall.

Here are a few thoughts:

-some employers are combining role descriptions / functions KNOWINGLY in order to squeeze two people&#039;s work out of one job slot. 

Others, as in the article, do so out of not understanding what the roles actually are.

-In some cases it makes sense to add the particular skill but it may also take a year or more to come up to adequate proficiency (not expert!) in a language ... which is cost in money and time many job seekers do not have. 

I&#039;d only pursue that route if you want / need the skill otherwise and/or can afford the time.money and/or can get the employer to help yo bridge that gap... which is possible but less likely in a very competitive job market.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Good article overall.</p>
<p>Here are a few thoughts:</p>
<p>-some employers are combining role descriptions / functions KNOWINGLY in order to squeeze two people&#8217;s work out of one <a target="_blank" title="job" href="http://www.myjobsearchcoaching.com/more-information/">job</a> slot. </p>
<p>Others, as in the article, do so out of not understanding what the roles actually are.</p>
<p>-In some cases it makes sense to add the particular skill but it may also take a year or more to come up to adequate proficiency (not expert!) in a language &#8230; which is cost in money and time many <a target="_blank" title="job" href="http://www.myjobsearchcoaching.com/more-information/">job</a> seekers do not have. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d only pursue that route if you want / need the skill otherwise and/or can afford the time.money and/or can get the employer to help yo bridge that gap&#8230; which is possible but less likely in a very competitive <a target="_blank" title="job" href="http://www.myjobsearchcoaching.com/more-information/">job</a> market.</p></blockquote>
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		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Of the people I know, I haven&#039;t seen anyone (management level and above) with an education in business. 

I have both - a technical degree (IT) and an MBA. I guess that makes me a rare breed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Of the people I know, I haven&#8217;t seen anyone (management level and above) with an education in business. </p>
<p>I have both &#8211; a technical degree (IT) and an MBA. I guess that makes me a rare breed.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Jackie McCurdy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie McCurdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately in today&#039;s market you are in the minority.  More and more employers are including deep development knowledge of their business analysts which may be a reaction to the economy and the need to combine job functions.  In my job search I haven&#039;t found many employers looking for a BA whose role is only to discover and gather requirements, develop processes and ensure quality assurance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately in today&#8217;s market you are in the minority.  More and more employers are including deep development knowledge of their business analysts which may be a reaction to the economy and the need to combine <a target="_blank" title="job" href="http://www.myjobsearchcoaching.com/more-information/">job</a> functions.  In my <a target="_blank" title="job" href="http://www.myjobsearchcoaching.com/more-information/">job</a> <a title="search" href="http://www.it-career-coach.net/search/">search</a> I haven&#8217;t found many employers looking for a BA whose role is only to discover and gather requirements, develop processes and ensure quality assurance.</p>
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